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Originally posted to Democrats Ramshield on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 08:22 AM PDT.

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  •  Destruction of anything progressive is the (37+ / 0-)

    goal of the Kochs and other wealthy Americans in their full-on rush to seize every last bit of power in the country.  Charles Koch refers to things like libraries, police forces, and public property as the crazed impositions of "collectivists."

    They're using their billions to stomp harder on the necks of the working people. And the US Supreme Court just handed them a brand new set of boots yesterday.

    "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

    by YucatanMan on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 08:29:34 AM PDT

    •  Please recommend To YucatanMan comment (12+ / 0-)

      Well said. The necks of working class people are definitely being stepped on and the only way to survive is to collectively peacefully resist. Please help us to get the word out to support library funding. Thanks.

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 08:54:56 AM PDT

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    •  Progressives should dream of returning the favor. (7+ / 0-)

      In spirit and in kind.

      Legal means "good".
      [41984 | Feb 4, 2005]

      by xxdr zombiexx on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:22:29 AM PDT

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    •  An Additional Irony Is That . . . (4+ / 0-)
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      many city libraries were established through funding by Andrew Carnegie in a great burst of philanthropy in his later years (no doubt to try to salve his conscience.)

      "A famous person once said, 'You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.' But as I once said, "If you don't teach them to read, you can fool them whenever you like." – Max Headroom

      by midnight lurker on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 11:50:43 AM PDT

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      •  I keep thinking how interesting it would be... (3+ / 0-)
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        if the ghost of Andrew Carnegie could appear, Jacob Marley style, to the Koch Brothers to let them know that their immortal souls are in danger unless they change their ways. The Kochs are today's Ebenezer Scrooge (pre-conversion)--but I sincerely doubt they'll ever become the post-conversion Ebenezer Scrooge. Charles Dickens could have a field day with the Koch Brothers:

        "Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?"

        "If they would rather die,...they had better do it and decrease the surplus population."

        "I wear the chain I forged in life,...I made it link by link, and yard by yard; I girded it on of my own free will, and of my own free will I wore it. Is its pattern strange to you?"

        "They are Man’s," said the Spirit, looking down upon them. "And they cling to me, appealing from their fathers. This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy, for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased. Deny it!"

        "Business!" cried the Ghost, wringing its hands again. "Mankind was my business. The common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and benevolence were all my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!"

        But as the Koch Brothers would probably say to Charles Dickens today:
        "Bah!...Humbug!"

        But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, ... there are few die well that die in a battle; ... Now, if these men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the king that led them to it; — Shakespeare, ‘Henry V’

        by dewtx on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 12:30:25 PM PDT

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    •  Added cleats to the soles of their boots (0+ / 0-)

      Gotta make sure those things grip when they come down on the necks of the peons, for maximum effect.

    •  In Florida counties the method is the inquire into (0+ / 0-)

      a way of privatizing libraries.  It's not different than contracting out our rights to a corporation that has their own motives.  How would you like to have to file an action against a. Or proration to vindicate your civil rights?  If these crops have any say, you would have to accept private arbitration, and section 1983 would become a effective as prayer in protecting your rights.

      Patriotism may be the last refuge of scoundrels, but religion is assuredly the first.

      by StrayCat on Sun Apr 06, 2014 at 11:45:27 AM PDT

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  •  Nicely done, DR. (33+ / 0-)

    Thank you very much. The American people need to wake up before everything they've got is gone. IMHO, the end of public libraries will be the end of American culture. And I shudder to realize what's going to replace it. Dystopia is not a worthy goal.

  •  Well done! My evening reading... (6+ / 0-)

    "The philosophy of conservatism is inevitably doomed by its adherents' willingness to accept bluster as a sign of character and thick-headed devotion to meaningless symbols as sign of moral fiber." (Albert Einstein)

    by Jim R on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 08:48:24 AM PDT

  •  Excellent, excellent diary! (12+ / 0-)

    Libraries are critical. Unfortunately many incarcerated people discover reading and research in libraries after they have been sentenced to long terms. After school and early evening programs; including sports, the arts, and open libraries are slowly becoming a thing of the past. Libraries are a place of discovery; and more young people need to be gently directed there. They are places that nurture when nothing else can...SSK  

    "Hey Clinton, I'm bushed" - Keith Richards UID 194838

    by Santa Susanna Kid on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:00:41 AM PDT

    •  to Santa Susanna Kid - I couldn't agree more. (6+ / 0-)

      Of course you're right, libraries are becoming a thing of the past, as library de-funding becomes a national epidemic. But it doesn't have to be that way. As the library is the truly last social good in America, we can simply elect to stand up, step up and say enough and we can do that because we're actually the owners of the country and not the 1%. This can be done and I would argue it should be done and it must be done, because nothing less than the freedom of information is at stake here, but in order to be heard because they own the press, they own the radio, they own the TV stations, we can only be heard through alternative media, so please help us to get the message out by sharing efforts like this diary on FB and Twitter and by email by writing letters to the editor. By posting on community message boards and speaking out at church, at community gatherings of any size or description with a clear message, not only do we not want libraries de-funded, we want library funding increased.

      We want the library to become as a socialized good our new good community centers in the digital age, because libraries are the last truly socialized public good in America. We cannot afford to lose them, lest we lose the American way of life in my humble view. Thank you for your support of library funding.

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:11:47 AM PDT

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    •  "Libraries are a place of discovery." (1+ / 0-)
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      You can say that again. When I was growing up on a farm in Iowa more than 50 years ago (OK, well more than 50 years ago!), the local Carnegie-built public library in town was more than a place of discovery--it was a haven and a refuge. Growing up my family didn't have a lot of money--the only books in the house were the family Bible and a set of the Funk & Wagnalls Encyclopedia that I still remember my mother purchasing one volume a week for $1.00 each over 26 weeks as part of a promotion at the local supermarket (does that date me or what?). Everything else we wanted to read came from the public library in town.

      We would go into town only once per week on Saturday afternoon or evening to purchase supplies that we couldn't raise ourselves. My father would go to the local tavern to spent some down time away from his three constantly fighting sons (we only fought because we were bored) and our mother; my mother would do the necessary shopping (away from us too); and my two brothers and I would each be given 25 cents to spend as we saw fit--sometimes an ice cream soda at the local drug store (remember them!), or at the movies, or whatever. But one of our important tasks was to return the previous week's library books and pick out new ones. I would spend hours huddled among the stacks of the library reading and looking for new treasures to borrow for a week. If a new "Tom Swift" book came out, I was in seventh heaven. I still remember that distinctive smell of our public library--dust and glue and old paper. I can't remember growing up without the memory of the public library and the special place it held in our lives. I would hope that libraries still hold a similar special place in the life of a young child.

      Needless to say, my home is now filled with books, of all varieties, subjects, genres, and authors. When my grandson now comes to visit, he sneaks a peak at my large to-be-read pile to see what grandpa is reading now--and then plays Minecraft on his iPhone...sigh! But at least he knows that I read a lot and is interested in what I am reading lately--and I think that's not a bad start for a child of the 21st Century.

      But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, ... there are few die well that die in a battle; ... Now, if these men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the king that led them to it; — Shakespeare, ‘Henry V’

      by dewtx on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 01:14:10 PM PDT

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      •  Libraries are a place of discovery (2+ / 0-)
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        For all ages and for everyone.

      •  I was so fortunate (0+ / 0-)

        to have really literate parents. We had Time-Life books, (every topic), Encyclopedia Brittanica, National Geographic Magazine,  Life Magazine, Webster's Dictionary, La Times & Herald Examiner, and tons of the great writers: Faulkner, Twain, Shakespeare, Kerouac, Thomas, Hemingway, Bradbury, London, Cummings, and a host of others. And the art books were plentiful, as well. There was always something to read. I joined the book club in 4th grade, and still have all of those volumes I bought way back then. I guess I am still kind of a book hoarder. Whatever fascinates me, well, I buy the books. I am so lucky, I am so blessed, (not in a religious sense, of course)...SSK

        "Hey Clinton, I'm bushed" - Keith Richards UID 194838

        by Santa Susanna Kid on Sun Apr 06, 2014 at 02:44:32 AM PDT

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    •  Libraries are important for everyone (1+ / 0-)
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  •  Libraries and the post office have long been (10+ / 0-)

    targets. These are two places that offer poorer Americans connections to each other and society that they would otherwise not be able to pay for.

    The best part is, University libraries. You can visit them, but you have to pay fees to use their books if you are not already a student. So even those would be nothing more than glorified reading rooms for the poor, if they ever thought to go to such places.

    Our federal document repositories are mostly digital now too, meaning that without hard copies its easy for information to be made unavailable for research.

    This to me, speaks to the desire to make the middle class and the poor into ignorant drones who can never better themselves on their own, because they won't be able to buy the books, with the end of net neutrality, the won't necessarily have access to books or good information online, and without a working post office, soon even the male will be privatized and out of reach for some as well.

    "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

    by GreenMother on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:07:47 AM PDT

    •  to GreenMother - you are absolutely right (7+ / 0-)

      You make some extremely good points. There are university libraries, but because of budget cuts they have started charging community borrowers. For a public institution to be forced do something like this is shameful. Because there are many great stories of self-educated people being able to pull themselves up by their bootstraps with the library as a public education center. Lots of working class folks also depend on libraries for their continued professional education support for career development, but we have to remember we are the owners of this country called America. It belongs to us the people, not the 1%, we are the owners of the country and we must take ownership of this issue and other issues if we are to succeed. We must, can succeed provided we stand together in unity and positive belief in our just cause and its success. Again that is my humble view. thanks for giving me the opportunity to express it through your generous support of this writing, without which this discussion would not be possible.  

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:17:09 AM PDT

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      •  Its not just pulling oneself up by their (6+ / 0-)

        bootstraps professionally.

        It's being able to research medical conditions. It's being able to read about climate change issues, it's being able to teach oneself basic skills like gardening or child rearing techniques, its being able to access books, that one reads to a child or uses to encourage children too read at all.

        The internet is also used for research. People like to pretend its all CT and porn, but really and truly, thanks to the openness of the internet several persecuted minority communities were able to connect in ways they never could before, and talk about problems that would have been censored by the dominant cultural paradigm.

        Religion, Racism, Sexism, Sexual Harassment, children who survive different kinds of Abuse, Veterans fighting the Va for benefits, and people trying to protect their homes, rights and livelihoods from giant multinational corporations--think of the BP Boycott for starters, the XL Pipeline protests, the Peace Marches--

        libraries offer meeting space face to face for these people and the internet offers virtual meeting space for different movements and groups and this is a direct threat to the kind of fascist dystopia that is being forced on the American people NOW.

        Jindal is obviously a tool in every multiple sense of the word. He wants to get rid of the USGS, others of his party wanted to get rid of the NWS and that is a direct assault on our ability to study climate change issues via weather and geological changes and disturbances.

        Now get rid of the libraries and net neutrality and we won't even be able to look back at the immediate past as even a jumping off point.

        Get rid of cheap, guaranteed private mail and we won't even be able to bitch about it privately where NSA cannot casually record and eavesdrop.

        "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

        by GreenMother on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:44:35 AM PDT

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        •  Libraries are the primary sites for adult literacy (4+ / 0-)
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          programs, and for after school tutors as well. For me as a secular homeschool parent, public libraries are where I find access to Bill Nye videos, to BBC series dvds, to extra books for the kids to read, to help hone their skills or just for pleasure.

          Public libraries are safe places that contain children's areas, with toys and books for toddlers, during inclement weather.

          They are places where people meet, to discuss books, issues of the day or just to create social connections.

          I know that the GOPers imagine this magical place to be actually shopping malls, and they would love it if it were, but really, Libraries.

          They do not just your race, color, creed, gender, sex, sexual orientation, class or political party.

          Everyone is welcome there.

          "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

          by GreenMother on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 10:42:58 AM PDT

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    •  If you want to check items out (6+ / 0-)

      or use them online, yes. Public universities' resources are still open to anyone who can get to them physically, however. Of course, if the item you want is currently checked out, a non-student/faculty/staff member will have to wait until it comes back in.

      "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

      by bryduck on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:33:52 AM PDT

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    •  Mail! oops, sometimes brain thinks of sounds (3+ / 0-)
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      not spelling.

      "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

      by GreenMother on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:38:20 AM PDT

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  •  who needs libraries with corporate media? (6+ / 0-)
    Isn’t there something strangely reassuring when your eyeballs are gripped by a “mystery” on the news that has no greater meaning and yet sweeps all else away?  This, of course, is the essence of the ongoing tale of the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.  Except to the relatives of those on board, it never really mattered what happened in the cockpit that day.  To the extent that the plane’s disappearance was solvable, the mystery could only end in one of two ways: it landed somewhere (somehow unnoticed, a deep unlikelihood) or it crashed somewhere, probably in an ocean.  End of story.  It was, however, a tale with thrilling upsides when it came to filling airtime, especially on cable news.  The fact that there was no there there allowed for the raising of every possible disappearance trope -- from Star Trekkian black holes to the Bermuda Triangle to Muslim terrorists -- and it had the added benefit of instantly evoking a popular TV show.  It was a formula too good to waste, and wasted it wasn’t.
    Similar media sensation about Crimea.

    But during this time a series of articles releases that showed that Al Qaeda is stronger than it was on 9/11 and controls more territory. That "story" got no coverage at all. It was lost in the Bermuda triangle?

    What if National Security was ...

    Tomgram: Engelhardt, The Bermuda Triangle of National Security

    with

    Hijacking the American Plane of State
    Old Scripts and Empty Stories Signal a New Age

    that was the title and sub title of the article posted today

    http://www.tomdispatch.com/...

    so the question remains, who needs libraries when we can continued to be entertained by the corporate media and be surprised when our country and the environment collapses?

    •  to Don midwest - your point is well taken (5+ / 0-)

      Without libraries as an information resource for members of the voting public, we have an electorate that is dependent on the corporatist media and the enterprise of democracy, which depends on an informed electorate is impaired. To that end libraries always perform an indispensable function, but there are those who don't want an informed electorate who covet power and wealth to our detriment. These are the forces that are out there trying to de-fund libraries. Please don't let them get away with it.

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:21:20 AM PDT

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      •  middle class threat to oligarchy - recent learning (4+ / 0-)
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        middle class had power

        oligarchy is about power

        they don't want a middle class

        Lessons from Turkey and the recent election. The Prime Minister, Ergogan, is in the AKP party.

        It has to also be remembered that the establishment which ran this country for decades prior to the AKP always considered those citizens who defended true democracy and human rights as members of a fifth column in the service of a West that was out to destroy Turkey.
        In other words, the supposedly modern elements that ran Turkey for decades always mimicked Europeans superficially, but never believed in the values that go to make up contemporary Europe.
        More often than not, they considered these values to be a threat to national unity and the symbols they believed in religiously for maintaining this unity.
        supporters of democracy in Turkey were considered a fifth column. Chris Hedges writes about this in "The Death of the Liberal Class" If there were a real liberal class, why would the libraries and other institutions be rapidly privatized to give more power to the corporations? Chris calls what has happened here a corporate coup d'etat.

        the last two paragraphs from article on Turkey

        Erdoğan’s “New Turkey” is not a desirable place for true democrats, but neither was the “Old Turkey” that some still hanker after. We need a genuinely new and democratic Turkey where no one feels alienated because of the results of a ballot box and everyone believes in the rule of law no matter who is elected.

        The results of the local elections have left us in even more of a quandary as to who will provide leadership for this.

        the link
        http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/...

        So the same question holds for the US. Leadership will come from the street and internet, not from the political parties.

  •  I've got to point out that, (6+ / 0-)

    during the 1930s depression, Mayor LaGuardia increased library hours so that people could more easily help themselves to become better equipped to get a job. And there's the Andrew Carnegie libraries - Carnegie was no saint either. (if you ever get to Pittsburgh, go visit the first Carnegie library in Braddock. It will amaze you)

    "Labor was the first price, the original purchase - money that was paid for all things" -- Adam Smith

    by HugoDog on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:12:15 AM PDT

    •  to HugoDog - your points are very well taken (5+ / 0-)

      Especially about the history which is the Carnegie libraries, that was a page in history when rich people valued their communities. Now it seems rich people only value their bank accounts and they have turned their backs not only on the libraries but on the communities they serve. thank you for your support of library funding. You help is much appreciated and deeply valued.

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:23:26 AM PDT

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      •  Carnegie built libraries b/c he was shamed into it (2+ / 0-)
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        Calling in the Army (imagine, a private citizen having the US Army on speed dial) to shoot striking workers is the real Andrew Carnegie.  Nothing else about the man is worth knowing.

        It even makes right-wing plutocratic sense that he'd choose libraries as a PR exercise: it's something that doesn't actually put anything into people's hands - not food, not housing, not health care - so he can always content himself that anyone who's still poor despite the presence of the library must be deranged or defective.

        Domestic politics is the continuation of civil war by other means.

        by Visceral on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:32:40 AM PDT

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        •  It is true that he was nasty. (1+ / 0-)
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          I was also puzzled about the idea of building a place for his workers to go "better themselves" after they've put in twelve hours of back breaking work in the steel mills. The Braddock library I mentioned above is just down the street from a mill.

          "Taxes are what we pay for civilized society, including the chance to insure" - Oliver Wendell Holmes, Compania General De Tabacos De Filipinas v. Collector of Internal Revenue, 275 U.S. 87, 100, dissenting; opinion

          by HugoDog on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:45:06 AM PDT

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          •  late 19th Cent. equivalent of "Go to night school" (2+ / 0-)
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            I was also puzzled about the idea of building a place for his workers to go "better themselves" after they've put in twelve hours of back breaking work in the steel mills.

            Domestic politics is the continuation of civil war by other means.

            by Visceral on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:55:48 AM PDT

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            •  although most people who say (1+ / 0-)
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              "go to night school" don't build the night school facility.

              "Taxes are what we pay for civilized society, including the chance to insure" - Oliver Wendell Holmes, Compania General De Tabacos De Filipinas v. Collector of Internal Revenue, 275 U.S. 87, 100, dissenting; opinion

              by HugoDog on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 10:19:09 AM PDT

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              •  perhaps, but it doesn't change the situation (1+ / 0-)
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                The message is the same: "I, one of the richest and most powerful men in the country - whose company is built upon your labor and which owns your house, the store you buy food at, and everything else you see around you - will not be held responsible for your standard of living.  If you want more then you need to be worth more: if not to me, then to someone else.  I, who have the greatest means, shall do the least - and then only for myself - must not be asked to do anything, and shall reap the greatest rewards ... while those who have the smallest means will have the most asked of them and will reap the smallest reward necessary to keep them alive and working."

                Easier said than done, especially out in the country were there are no jobs but farming or the mill, neither of which even requires basic literacy.  The real value of a college education is in networking and for the famous schools, prestige.

                Domestic politics is the continuation of civil war by other means.

                by Visceral on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 10:33:31 AM PDT

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                •  Agreed with everything in you post. (1+ / 0-)
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                  The real value of a college education is in networking and for the famous schools, prestige.
                  I would say that, while the famous schools have prestige as  some of their value (they certainly say that when a prof. is discussing salary with them...), their main value is also networking.
                  Here's an attempt to quantify that.
                  http://time.com/...

                  "Taxes are what we pay for civilized society, including the chance to insure" - Oliver Wendell Holmes, Compania General De Tabacos De Filipinas v. Collector of Internal Revenue, 275 U.S. 87, 100, dissenting; opinion

                  by HugoDog on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 10:43:00 AM PDT

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      •  you're welcome. (4+ / 0-)
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        The husband of a coworker of mine used to be the director of a branch library in San Diego, the Malcolm X Library. (he's since been transferred). He said that everyday, when he would unlock the doors, the was a crowd of people, mostly elderly, waiting and they would rush in to get to the computers. With so much information online, and access to so many services, resources, gov't, retail, and otherwise, primarily online, not to mention job applications, it is important to provide provide this bridge across the digital divide. Then there's the community spaces. And the safe place for kids after school that encourages them to think. Libraries are now so much more than collections of books, and they are vital for a just, well educated, society.

        "Taxes are what we pay for civilized society, including the chance to insure" - Oliver Wendell Holmes, Compania General De Tabacos De Filipinas v. Collector of Internal Revenue, 275 U.S. 87, 100, dissenting; opinion

        by HugoDog on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:40:12 AM PDT

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        •  Check this video out (3+ / 0-)
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          And the safe place for kids after school that encourages them to think.
          Henry Rollins at the latest California Librarians Association conference. He rocked the house, unsurprisingly. I'm sorry the full speech is hidden behind a membership wall. (Irony is not dead, apparently.)

          "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

          by bryduck on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:49:34 AM PDT

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        •  Every social goods retreating to same four walls (1+ / 0-)
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          On one hand, I like seeing more and more services at the public library. Guest lectures and book readings were always part of library life. Homework help was there for a while, too, but it should supplement the school's own resources, not substitute. Crisis contact, employment assistance, government system navigation, etc.? Those also make some sense if the appropriate agencies are unable to reach out on their own, but it's really only transferring the job from one place to another. Seed banks are a pretty good addition to our library, as well as some evening social activities.

          But, aren't most of those new library functions also, in some sense, existing traditions all retreating into the last defensible space?

          Kids are especially at risk. As a kid myself, I once was able to loiter with others my age with only minimal adult interference. For some small fraction of that time, I was indeed up to no good, but was generally ignored by authorities and 'concerned citizens' in an age when walking into town and 'hanging out' were considered normal behaviors. Every now and then, my co-kids and I risked and even received minor injuries, but we got better and at least pretended to learn from our mishaps.

          Today, kids are forced to retreat into their online worlds, since they rarely see each other face-to-face. Of course a large fraction of our days as kids were also spent in institutional settings like schools and jobs. But today, even their nominally 'free' time is scrutinized. Only something like the power and tactics of gang life let them escape adult supervision. Otherwise, to see each other outside of their homes or cars, they must choose among approved activities like church groups, organized sports, or regularly-scheduled 'enrichment' sessions.

          Our city's libraries have teen rooms, where kids can study together and talk at reasonable volumes, preserving some of the free-form discussions that arose in our generation's benign loitering times. But many other cities cannot afford that space.

          Adults need those supplemental services too, but today's kids are at risk of never knowing a public space that welcomes them as they are. When all the goods are forced together, it becomes ever more critical to defend that space.

          Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

          by chimpy on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 10:51:27 AM PDT

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          •  Are those "special services" there (2+ / 0-)
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            retreating there, or are they supplementing what's out there? Probably both.

            One of the really good things about libraries is that if you don't know where to get such-and-such  social/gov't service, their will be somebody in the library who will take the time to help you find out where you have to go.

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            by HugoDog on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 10:58:34 AM PDT

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            •  At one time, supplementing and referring. (2+ / 0-)

              I know that librarians have always been great at knowing where to look further into something. From recommending a new perspective or a good primary source for my research project, to knowing the functions and addresses of social service agencies, they were always happy to help. They'd have fliers for each agency, they'd know the hours, and they might have applications for some benefits. They would tell you what to bring, and might offer to get you started, but mostly they'd refer you to a specialist you could visit easily on your own.

              With those agencies closing branches and moving online, more of those agencies' front-line support is falling to library staff.

              Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

              by chimpy on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 11:20:41 AM PDT

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              •  To chimpy -Librarians have always been information (1+ / 0-)
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                social workers. You're right, now that many social services organizations have been reduced or shut down, librarians are trying to pick up the slack even more so as information social workers. This is really difficult work that libraries face because they have patrons who have no where else to turn, so they come to us because libraries have never failed them.

                This is a badge of honor for libraries. I thank you for pointing it out.

                You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

                by Democrats Ramshield on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:52:25 AM PDT

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  •  One of the sad parts about visiting Detroit (5+ / 0-)

    nowadays is the shuttering and ruins of two of the libraries that I frequented as a kid; harassing the librarians and having them always chase me for this and that book that was due.

    •  to Chitown Kev - it is with sadness that I read (5+ / 0-)

      that the libraries of your childhood have been boarded up. But it is with great optimism that I tell you they can be opened back up to serve more children, who then will have the same wonderful experiences that you have described, all of this is reversible and the reason it is reversible is because we the people own this country, not the 1%, not the political class. America belongs to us, all we have to do is take ownership of this issue and all the other issues. We can do this. We can open those libraries up again. We can get the dust off their shelves. We can get them staffed. We can get them full of children and their families and communities. It can be done. There is hope.

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:27:06 AM PDT

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  •  There's always the Tee-Vee Hyuck! Hyuck! (3+ / 0-)

    why read when you can wait fer the movie?

    Legal means "good".
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    by xxdr zombiexx on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:21:30 AM PDT

  •  neo liberalism makes everything about $ (4+ / 0-)

    short video of a talk by Henry Giroux. In several articles and books he describes the destruction of the University in similar terms as you describe the destruction of the library.

    the first couple minutes are a devastating critique of neo liberalism

    .. a world in which sovereignty is corporate, not individual ...economics drives politics and econ divorced from social good

    he talks about youth no jobs, no future, no hope ...

    In a special interview, Truthout contributor Henry Giroux takes us back to the basics of what can be seen as an ongoing and accelerating war between the rich and everyone else, an event that has resulted in a mass inability “to translate private troubles into larger structural public considerations.”

    “We have no way of understanding that link anymore,” Giroux says, “because what we’ve done is we’ve defined freedom in a way that suggests it’s the freedom to do anything you want and screw everybody else.

    Neoliberalism, Youth and Social Justice

    this 10 minute excerpt from a longer video which I don't have the link right now

    •  to Don midwest - intellectual freedom makes all (4+ / 0-)

      things possible. It gives hope of a better tomorrow. It shines light where hence to fore there was darkness. The innovation and creativity of the human mind as fed by the library, a de facto repository of everyone who has ever thought or written makes us larger, but only because we stand on the shoulders of those who have walked before us. It is this I would argue that is the source of all true inspiration and hope. We must never lose it. We must guard it for the next generation, just as those who went before it guarded it for our generation. This generations of Americans cannot be the generation that has lost the freedom of information, which is the birthright of every American. If we will support each other, we will prevail in a spirit of comeradery and non-violent resistance. We must, can and will overcome the opposition to full library funding as a public good for the benefit of all.  

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:35:39 AM PDT

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  •  Getting rid of ANYTHING public seems to be the (8+ / 0-)

    republican agenda. Are they just trying to access more profit for their Repub buddies? In the case of Louisiana I believe we are one of the most under-educated people in the US. Isn't it true that low- information voters are more likely to vote repub.? Closing libraries will certainly help achieve that goal.

    "Onward through the fog!" - Oat Willie

    by rocksout on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:26:38 AM PDT

    •  only if they're white (1+ / 0-)
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      Isn't it true that low- information voters are more likely to vote repub.?

      Domestic politics is the continuation of civil war by other means.

      by Visceral on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:34:58 AM PDT

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      •  I would respond by saying that (0+ / 0-)

        people of color in this country are getting plenty of information about what is right and who stands for them--they are almost by definition not "low-information" . . .

        "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

        by bryduck on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:41:58 AM PDT

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    •  Yes to all of your questions. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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      "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

      by bryduck on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:35:03 AM PDT

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    •  and the democratic agenda as well (1+ / 0-)
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      it is the political agenda of the country

      transfer power to the corporations so the wheel of the government is no longer connected to the road so they can't drive

      check out the video that I linked above on neo liberalism

      both parties are in on the game

      just a couple of examples

      Obama has overseen the continuation and expansion of the spying state which includes the ability to track our book purchases and what we read on line and check out from the library

      Obama and the administration has not put under control the banksters who rocked the global economy in 2008 and continue to threaten the collapse of the entire world economy through their financial games

    •  to rocksout - you are certainly correct! (3+ / 0-)
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      low information voters are more likely to vote republican or not vote at all. But the truth and bottom line is that the library is the last, best truly socialized good in America. We must never lose it. For if we do, then we are in danger of losing our democracy which is fed by the freedom of information. The freedom to read as I point out in the diary it is believed comes directly from the 1st amendment of the Constitution of the United States. There is no greater source of liberty than a free human mind. This is worth keeping. Libraries are an American success story, we must never lose it.

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:38:33 AM PDT

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    •  To rocksout - You're right (0+ / 0-)

      Low information voters tend to vote Republican or not vote at all. Clearly voter suppression has long been a Republican goal, because while they are good about getting their people to the pools, they're not so good at getting undecided voters and particularly new voters to vote for them. Clearly a well informed literate voter base that is support by public libraries as an available strong public good is not something that most GOP leaders want to support. You are clearly right about that. Especially in the case of Bobby Jindal. Good post, thanks for sharing that.

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:47:38 AM PDT

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  •  It's not just libraries that are (5+ / 0-)

    under attack; it's the profession of librarianship itself. I don't believe that the reference desk is as necessary as it used to be--many questions once posed to a librarian are now being answered (maybe even correctly!) by the patrons themselves using other tools. But that was always just one function of a librarian anyway, so declining stats on the desk should not be a signal to administrators that librarians are no longer needed in a library. Sadly, too many directors and governing agencies do see it that way--because, simply, they are ignorant about what a library is and how it works.
    Seeing Jerry Brown put a non-librarian in as the State "Librarian" is another slap in the face to our profession--gee, anybody can be a librarian, even an out-of-work journalism major!--which echoes throughout the state and the country at large.

    "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

    by bryduck on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:40:36 AM PDT

  •  Shuting down a library is like cutting off... (4+ / 0-)

    ...a portion of your cerebral cortex.

    There are more than 315,000 worldwide.

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    by Shockwave on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:55:29 AM PDT

    •  To Shockwave - Thank you for reminding us (0+ / 0-)

      of the good work that the Gates foundation has done in support of libraries. You're right as the library is part of the collective mental consciousness of our society of everyone who has ever thought and written, having our minds cut out of that existence through the use of censorship by defunding libraries is a despicable act  against the human mind that will serve to diminish us all. Thanks for reminding us all of this important truth. Great post.

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:43:33 AM PDT

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  •  Dumbing Down Americans Is The Oligarchs' Goal. (1+ / 0-)
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    John D. Rockefeller said, "Industry needs workers, NOT thinkers."

    George Carlin expressed it better saying, "Employers hire people just smart enough to operate the machinery and fill out the paperwork but not smart enough to know that they are getting the big red, white, and blue dick shoved up their asses."

    And we know how the rethugs feel about libraries -- "Book learnin' causes homosexuality."

  •  There is nothing for a researcher like (3+ / 0-)

    holding a reference text and exploring the subject that interests you. All the internet resources in the world don't replace the substance and feel of a book.

    I like researching online, but when I'm dealing with multiple texts and need to follow up on the references, having a library to resource and spread out the research material is something near-irreplaceable to me.

    Libraries are also havens for the young to learn in. I love it when the kids get to have an author come and read to them. It makes the world of books and literature alive to them as nothing online really can.

    Our libraries are our national treasure. They hold the wealth of knowledge from the ages. Libraries must be protected from the incursions of those who would stifle curiosity and knowledge.

    The American Revolution was a beginning, not a consummation. Woodrow Wilson

    by 4Freedom on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 11:02:10 AM PDT

    •  To 4Freedom - You're so right (1+ / 0-)
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      Author readings in libraries really bring the world of books and literature alive for those who are young and for those young at heart. This experience can never be duplicated online because people have a need to come together. People are social animals and as such they have a need to share information.

      Information sharing is what the library is all about. Thank you so much for sharing with us your love of libraries. We are richer for it.

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 02:05:42 PM PDT

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  •  omg. Some of these stats on literacy are just (2+ / 0-)

    jaw-dropping! And a national disgrace.


    ... nearly 63% of all inmates are functionally illiterate
    85 percent of all juveniles who interface with the juvenile court system are functionally illiterate.
    So hard to believe. Yet as student teacher of 9th graders who had 4th grade reading levels in 1969, that was the trend. But astonishing to see that it is as bad as this.

    "extreme concentration of income is incompatible with real democracy.... the truth is that the whole nature of our society is at stake." Paul Krugman

    by Gorette on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 11:50:40 AM PDT

    •  To Gorette - Couldn't agree more with you (0+ / 0-)

      You're absolutely right. These statistics are jaw dropping. It fills one with dread and sadness to see them. How did we ever let it come to this? But even worse is this statistics are unlike fine wines get worse with time rather than better. Particularly as they keep defunding libraries. Thank you so much for your support of library funding and for the great comment.

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 02:08:06 PM PDT

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  •  thank you (1+ / 0-)
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    It's really a national crisis. Texas here has made drastic cuts to our public and academic libraries.
    And the anti-tax, anti-government propaganda is working. You might be surprised at how many people dislike libraries now.
    "Why should I pay extra taxes to support y'all, when I never go there?" "Ya know, I really never liked those places", and "I don't have no kids, why should I pay taxes to..." are just some of the comments I have heard since I became the librarian at sleepy 79842. Pop. 400.
    Welllll....

    I buy and sell well trained riding mules and American Mammoth Jack Stock.

    by old mule on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 12:48:28 PM PDT

    •  To old mule - (0+ / 0-)

      It fills one with sadness to hear that you have to put up with these types of comments. But the truth is in many communities where libraries are well funded the libraries do come to them. They are called book mobiles and people love them.  Perhaps this is one reason we could give these people for funding your library fully, also libraries can mail books to people who cannot come to the library. A lot of libraries provide online resources to people and services such as "ask the librarian" by telephone. I think we should also remind people who say these things to you that there is value to them to have the people around them achieve and maintain good level of literacy with lower crime and a smarter work force are always of great benefit to communities.

      There's great benefit to communities to have summer reading programs for children and a safe place for them to go after school to bring their homework. They also provide materials to children who could never afford to have access to them. Libraries are a wonderful benefit to everyone and they can be a great source of civic pride to people who have good reason to be proud of their libraries and are eager to support them. Libraries are the last best public good in America that is truly socialized. They are definitely worth saving and not to do so would diminish us all.  

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 02:16:15 PM PDT

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      •  yes (0+ / 0-)

        We had a bookmobile back in the days when the ranches didn't have phones or electricity, really isolated. Our big strength here at 79842 is the kids' program.
        But we just get kids and old people here, most young adults have left to work the oil field in Odessa, or get their fixes from Netflix or the home computer.
        No, the people here who hate taxes and government do NOT see value in a population with lower crime or higher literacy- they just don't.
        We are hanging on.
        I am the eighth librarian here and hope not to be the last.

        I buy and sell well trained riding mules and American Mammoth Jack Stock.

        by old mule on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:47:57 PM PDT

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  •  Excellent in-depth diary and comments. (1+ / 0-)
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    Just like Post Offices, libraries should be community centers.
    In some rural areas, they serve as bulletin boards of a sort, film and lecture venues, etc. etc.

    And for those who don't have a computer at home, the library's public computers are the only answer.

    Thanks for this, DR.

    •  To northerntier - Thank you for supporting this (1+ / 0-)
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      Thank you also for your support of library funding. I can't tell you how gratifying it is to watch young children who don't have access to a computer at home become computer literate in the library. It really means something to see this kind of thing because you know when you do that the library has made a difference in opening up worlds to those who are young and those who are young at heart in a way that adds value to their lives and our lives. Thank you again for your thoughtful post and for your support of libraries.

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 02:18:58 PM PDT

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    •  Libraries are extremely useful for our communities (1+ / 0-)
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  •  Libraries have always (1+ / 0-)
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    been important in my family.  Both my parents were big readers and trips to the library were an important part of my childhood.  My mother volunteered at the Friends of the Library in our home town for years and years -- and her request, on her deathbed, was to have her memorial (with my father) on a bench in front of the library.  She envisioned people sitting there, reading.  And so it was...we got her that bench.  And a truckload (I do mean a BIG truckload) of books were donated to the library in my parents' name as we cleaned out the house.

    Our library gave a big start to the immigrant families in town.  After the Vietnam War, we had a lot of Vietnamese people settling in the area -- and the library was the place where everyone studied, learned English, really got a good start in our country.  It was very important that way.

    Thank you for this excellent diary, Democrats Ramshield, and for forming the Progressive Friends of the Library Newsletter group.

    •  Sara R - Thank you for your very thoughtful post (1+ / 0-)
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      Thank you also for sharing and I'd also like to thank your mother for passing to you the love of reading and your lifelong support of libraries. For truly libraries are a collective memory of everyone who has ever thought and written and anyone who has ever loved libraries. It is the cement that holds working class Americans together. It binds us from one generation to the next. It unites us in a common cause of information sharing, not for profit but for the public good. Please accept my humble thanks for your family's present and past support of libraries. Thank you also for sharing with us your moving story which certainly won't be forgotten.

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:08:59 AM PDT

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  •  Our town is such an island of sanity (0+ / 0-)

    We live in a tiny town in a rural area. It has 2 libraries, and at Town Meeting we voted to increase taxes to cover restoring the slate and copper roof on the historic library building (which, ironically, due to a federal grant for historic preservation, will cost less than stripping it and installing asphalt), but more than that, we added an extra thousand because the town was supporting one library more than the other, so someone asked to add $1000 to the other library's budget!

    I mean, it's like living in a Twilight Zone world, where we're in this little bastion of sanity, surrounded by some kind of idiocratic stepford civilization.

    •  radical simplicity Thanks for the interesting post (1+ / 0-)
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      Please know that you are not alone in this regard. Not only are we with you but what has happened to you in your library happens in many other places. So first feel acknowledged of the fact that you are not alone. Let me say that wealthier town libraries often don't have the character or soul of the smaller under funded ones. While we respect everyone good work, we note that your considerable efforts in preserving the doubtlessly beautiful character of your building and it's doubtless rich history which is something that cannot be duplicated by money and bigger fancier. The neighborhood that your library serves is richer for it and the truth be known probably enviously looked at because the soul of a library is never in a newer, fancier building. It's always in the people and the history of that people and how they collectively came together one step at a time to form something that became your library.

      They can take your funding but they can never take our hope or history. You are right to point out that the competition for funding between libraries can be brutal. Yet we are united in a common vein knowing that we're all vulnerable and in the end in order to survive we must all stick together or surely we will fall apart. Thank you for sharing the rich history of your small neighborhood library. It's meaningful and knowing that you and your library exist adds value to our discussion here.

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:17:57 AM PDT

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  •  Libraries are more than just books--reposted. (1+ / 0-)
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    When I was small my family went to the library regularly.  My little brother and I each got to choose the books our parents would read to us at bedtime.  We learned to make decisions.  We learned our community cared about us.  We knew our parents loved us.

    One evening a real space capsule was on display.  It had actually been into the edge of outer space.  We stood in a long line to climb a few steps and look in the window.  We got to touch the outside of a small capsule of human brilliance that had reached out to the galaxy.  A librarian timed each of us so everyone could have a chance to look.  For many years I dreamed of becoming an astronaut, even though girls could not do such things when I was young.

    •  To allie4fairness - Thank you for reposting (0+ / 0-)

      your comment as it clearly adds value to our discussion here. The human mind in order to development properly in childhood must have hope. Hope has to come from somewhere. Judging from your comment, we must conclude at least part of that hope which came from your childhood came from your library, the ability to dream, the human mind's ability to envision something to aspire to self-fulfillment for young people has always come from books and stories of the type shared in libraries for thousands of years. Thank you for reminding us of the true value of libraries for young people, particularly young females because now and then this is very important. Thank you for extending yourself to share this interesting post with us.

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:23:18 AM PDT

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      •  Taking libraries away from children is evil. (1+ / 0-)
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        Poor people, elderly people on fixed incomes and even homeless people can find a refuge from the harsher aspects of their lives in the physical and intellectual warmth of their local library.  Your article was a desperately needed plea not to devalue people by telling them they do not deserve access to literature, music and other cultural pleasures.

  •  Thanks for posting this diary. Books forever! (1+ / 0-)
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    Poverty is not an accident. Like slavery and apartheid, it is man-made and can be removed by the actions of human beings. —Nelson Mandela

    by kaliope on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:18:09 AM PDT

    •  To kaliope - Yes it really is true (0+ / 0-)

      Books are forever. Books are the most perfect gift because if properly cared for, a book can definitely last a lifetime. It's a gift that warms the heart. The giver of such a gift will surely always be remembered. Thanks for the post.

      You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

      by Democrats Ramshield on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:25:01 AM PDT

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  •  smile :) (0+ / 0-)

    You ran into a hardcore progressive whos just another working stiff with an MBA degree & vociferous labor union supporter

    by Democrats Ramshield on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:27:59 AM PDT

  •  Libraries are an oasis of knowledge (0+ / 0-)

    I really enjoy our local community library.

  •  When I was a child (0+ / 0-)

    The visit to the library was the highlight of my week. I loved it!



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    Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

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